Runner's Forum: The Official: Training Summary Start Up Thread

Wow Gilly! Just.... wow!

Hi All, great posts. I am pleased to jump on with an actual run to post this time! With my week off - I had the freshest running legs tonight, did my usual home from the office, and felt great. Do not how long it took me to get home, but felt really good running tonight. ^kms.

Tomorrow morning the return leg - home to office, with PT at lunch time.

Have decided that I really need a new goal urgently to keep me focused - so will be entering the Great Australian Run - 15kms - with Craig Mottram, and Gebreselassie!!! They will be both be completed their run and drinking beer by the time I get to 7kms - but I reckon its my only chance to line up with those legends!

Happy running all

Ran 4 miles today 42 mins.

Great reading about all you pros!!  Inspirational.  If you don't mind I would love some newby advice.   History.  Wife and I decided in February to change our lifestyle and get back in shape.  Started walking 3.1 miles everyday and changed our diet.  I am 52 yrs and dropped 40 lbs by June.  We started adding cycling to our mix. By Sept. I wanted to see if I could run again!!  Well I can!  I am now running 3.1 miles every other day in about 28 minutes.  I want to enter a 5k in the next few weeks and want to be up to a 10 k by the spring.  My question is,  should I try to run the 3.1 faster or keep extending my weekly mileage. I NEVER thought that this would actually be fun!!!!  

Thanks all

 JAllyn

Baseroom, I agree with fungus. check out www.halhigdon.com for training plans for 5k and 10k. I think most of his beginner plans are mainly about building up endurance...increased endurance will bring an increase in speed. I was able to knock around 5 minutes off my 5k by just building endurance.

ex-k1w1, It was a little frustrating, but I'm still happy with that run time. 

Easy 4 miles today.  I thought my legs were tight, but after I got them moving, I felt fine.  Its kinda cool, because i am kinda bummed out today about a serious of events from yesterday.....and all i could think was..."i need to go for a run"   its nice that we can use running that way.  And when I stepped outside...it was drizzling.  Iwas actually wishing for rain, but...the sun broke through instead....gr symbolism...lol

I made a mistake and the 5k is actually next weekend..and i wont be able to make it...so now there is nothing between now and the 15k i aim for on 11/30.  And..i get to go to California on nov. 13, and all i could think about it.."yes!  running along the beach!"  lol

I think tommorrow I will head to the track and run some intervals there....sprint the straight aways, jog the turns...for 2 miles,1 mile warm up, 1 mile cool down...something like that....Then friday..attempt an 8 mile long run....woohoo!

Welcome to any other newbies i see here...

1 mile warm up 

20X200m (4 sets of 5)  1st set 1 min breaks, 2nd set 45sec breaks, 3rd 30 sec breaks and 4th set 15sec breaks.

Set 1-30,31,31,31,31 Set 2- 31,33,32,33,33 Set 3- 33,33,34,35,34 Set 4- 33,34,35,35,34

2 mile cool down

 

 

Hi All, Lovely run into office this ornin g- I am LOVING my fresh legs after a week off. The Marathon seems to have given me a real burst of something new in the leg department - maybe they just enjoy 30 mins instead of 4hours....

Welcome all newcomers -

 

tranquil21- your posts always make me smile.

Just finished my final run before Saturday's marathon....5.7 miles in 50 minutes. I meant to run slower...9:30, but ended up at 8:43 per mile...never was real good at slowing down my runs :)

Went out at lunch today and ran 13kms, 1km easy, then 10kms at race pace (56 mins), and 2kms to warm down. It was a beautiful sunny day around the waterfront, and felt great to be out there. Junkie - looking forward to hearing how you go on Saturday. Is it your first one, and are you aiming for a specific time, or to complete? Best of luck whatever your mission is!

Track workout for me tonight, 400-800-1200-1600-1200-800-400 can't remember all my splits (don't yet have a watch that records multiple splits!). Was roughly 1:30, 3:20, 6:20, 8:30, 6:30, 3:40: 1:40 - something like that anyway! Was quite happy with it.

Gearing up for gearing down over the winter... looking forward to clocking the miles and working on speed and endurance without the pressure of races. Maybe one more before xmas. Just started working part time in a running store so really looking forward to kitting up now : )

Gilly et al... I understand that more experienced runners often do 5+ runs per week, however teecue (? apologies if spelt wrong) mentioned they started in March so I would recommend that they maybe take it a little easier. I still stand by that and while I appreciate that the odd 'exceptional' or 'seasoned' runner might be able to run everyday but I don't think that the average or normal human body can take that level of physical exertion without more recovery time (at least one day a week).

lexb     Thanks for your input.  As a newby and enjoying this I feel like I want to run everyday.  But at 52 I want to be wise about making this a long term thing...not a burst then get injured.  I run every other day and  walk and cycle on the off days.  I want to build from 3.1 miles to 5 miles.  Then I will look at a program.  My respect to all you veterans who work so hard!!!

good luck this weekend junkie-99,.  can't wait to hear how ya make out,.just remember to prtect your quads in the first half.

gilly...my man...i am looking for a nice winter/early spring marathon.  do you hav any info good/bad on your state:  ie:  i am lookin at possibly the melbourne and music on feb 8th,.i hav heard ft lauderdale, sarasota and jacksonville aren't too good,.

no run today for me,.still doing the recovery thing,.doing 25-30 miles this week,.i am knawin at the bit to start training for next race..maybe half in early nov,. 5k in dec,. then hopefully full in feb....crossing fingers...

(oh yea,..found my "snowshoes" on line,..gonna give the "snowshoe racin" a shot in jan)..we will hav good snow in PA by then..if i cant get a feb marathon set..

Steve921 - i started with the 1600 my junior year in highschool (5:17), had better success at the 3200 (11:17), ran cross my senior year (5k - 17:57) then crashed and burned in college - too many all-niters and such a shitty schedule that i was always late to practice and could never travel to meets. sooooo i started doing things on my schedule and now marathon (3:05) with some little races thrown in (10k - 38:08)....... Did you ever read "Once A Runner"???? (hence the masochistic 400s.) I feel the same way about the 800, requires just a little more speed than i can muster! Freakin tough race though!..........KDogg and LexB - also tough workouts! nice job!..........40mins easy on the trail last night......90min progression run at lunch (8:00 to sub 7:00 pace) then 45mins easy after work.

first long run since the 1/2 - did a long slow 10.3 miles today - very slow at almost a 10 min/mile pace. My legs felt really heavy and tired after last nights track workout, all sorts of creaks and aches but just kept on pushing through it. Had a gu (espresso - yum!) at about 4.5miles (just before a climb) and then had to have my emergency back up gu (chocolate mint - even better!!!) at mile 8.5 when my stomach started grumbling!!! Not a great run but glad I have it under my belt now.

I'm also suffering from disappointment with my shoes - I bought NB 1062's a month or so ago, they felt amazing in the shop but as I soon as I got them home they just didn't quite feel the same. I have only really used them for my long runs and races but I just don't love them as much as I thought i would. My feet feel quite sore today... back to the saucony's I guess.

This is my first post on this forum. What a great motivating tool. I currently live in Louisiana, where the weather is as unpredictable as (insert analogy here).

I am 26 years old and am trying to find the old self-disciline that I u8sed to have. I lived in Kansas City (AMAZING CITY FOR RUNNERS) for 2 years during graduate school and had a running partner who pushed me and motivated me to run.

I ran 5 or 6 5K-10K races and then jumped in the Lawrence, KA 1/2 Marathon, finishing in 1:44:40---the first 24-year-old male to finish. I was pumped.

Nevertheless, I moved back to Louisiana, where food can take a runner and turn him into a running-tub-of-lard, and gained about 25 pounds, going from 185 up to 210. I got married and am expecting a baby girl...which is a great inspiration to get back at this...but it's so hard to find the time to get a run in everyday. I am a teacher, and I feel like I need an extra 5-10 hours in the day.

I just recently got a membership at the healthclub in the city where I teach, and I've been hitting the pool to try and shed some lbs. Endurance-wise, I'm ok. I can put in a 3-4 mile run, no problem. The problem is with my knees...I guess God never meant to have a 210 pound guy run long distances.

 Anyway...I'll post my daily updates on here as well, hoping that you guys could provide some support and much-needed advice. I really look forward to getting my old body back and getting my first marathon under my belt.

Thanks for takinf the time to read my post.

 Happy running!

 

hey Mark, your net time is more important for PR purposes. However, at many (most - if not all) races will use gun time to determine the overall winner and probably the age group placings.

For example, a guy I used to race against (well run in the same race with, I hardly raced him lol) was denied the elite start at the Chicago marathon this past race since this was his marathon debut. He ended up running a ~2:14 or so which was good for 4th place overall with NET time. However, the rules of the race specify that it is the first X number that cross the line that will win the money. So this guy had the 4th fastest time in the race, but the 9th fastest gun time (elites start 5:00 ahead of the masses), so he missed out on a lot of money. 

tranquil - I so agree with the part about your shoes just aren't the same when you want to try and go fast. I ran a workout in my trainers the other day (mistake #1) and didn't wear socks (mistake #2) and my feet got owned to say the least. 

Kipfaulk - Welcome man!!!  Glad to have you!  This is  an exciting forum.  Here you will find all the help you need.  I know about that food down in Louisiana...it will take discipline to trim down; but running will help a lot.

LexB - You went out and ran a long run after doing a tough track workout the night before???  You???  The one scolding me for not taking days off????  Of course your legs felt heavy and tired.  That's too funny.  I told you...I always follow an intense workout with a very light one.  BTW, I have always believed that with a proper diet, one shouldn't need supplements like Gu, even for your long runs.  I try to get enough carbs in my diet and never take Gu for my training runs.  That may not be the best thing, but that's what I do.

Tranquil - your posts are always so entertaining.  It sounds like you are talking to us.  It's so funny.  You are such.....a girl.  Too funny.  I personally don't like days off.  I only take them because I have to.  When I run, I have a pep in my step all day that isn't there on days off.  Running will certainly remind you that you are not 15, won't it?

Mark - The Net Time (or Chip Time) is the only one I ever pay attention to.

Graemec - Have a great race, Monday!!

Happy Running!

kipfaulk,

 Great start keep it up!!  I am literally twice your age and dropped from 207 to 164 walking cycling and now running.  Keep on a schedule and you'll get back to where you want to be. 

Lex - I was simply poking fun.  I agree with your premise.

Baseroom - congrats on such precipitous weight loss.  My Lord!

Hey Roger.....great news!  glad to hear its not a joint issue and that you are on top of it.  I fear injury so much because I know how stubborn I can be about stopping.

Gilly...I am such a girl...I know.  And I am talking to you guys.  My friends can't appreciate this excitement.  My best friend is all about doing things like crochet and jewlery making and sewing, and my other best friend is super into soccer....but...no runners.  And besides...I type how I am...so, if I every meet anyone personally...it won't be a surprise!

fricster...HAHA  

baseroom....that is awesome....this is why people who say "i can't" make me nuts....CLEARLY you can..!

Steve...I so wish I was as dedicated as you in highschool...keep up the good work!

Side topic....has anyone seen the High Fructose Corn Syrup commercials...?  What IS that??  the fact that they are advocating something so unhealthy amazes me and always gets me peeved!  Just had to share...

Good nyte!

GraemeC1983 good luck with your marathon on Monday! And thanks to all the well-wishers...I can't believe that by this time
Saturday I'll be around the 10 mile mark..LOL

Junkie - All the best to you, Saturday, dude.  We'll be thinking about you.  I'll be running a 16-mile long, easy run at home while you are racing.

Ex-K1W1 - You're the man!  You ran a marathon at 210lbs?  Wow!!  I'm sitting at 160 and I thought I was too heavy for the 26.2 mile haul.  Like you, I'm far from an "exceptional" athlete, and I also treasure my Sundays off.  On Saturday when I'm doing my long run, it fuels me knowing I have that day off to look forward to, also I met my goal for the week (this week, I'm doing 70 miles).

Fricster - Yes, calories can "count twice," depending on how food is prepared.  And they have exotic rules of food preparation in LA.

Baseroom - Is it tough keeping the weight off?

Lex - I know how you feel regarding your shoes.  I've had that happen to me...get home and they fit differently, etc.  But I always took them right back to the store and replaced them.  The biggest problem I'm having with shoes is as soon as I fall in love with a pair, they "upgrade" the shoe and mess it up, then I can never get the original shoe again.  I loved the Brooks Glycerin 5.  The Glycerin 6 came out with more cushion, hence more weight, and I don't like it nearly as much.  Thankfully, I have a few hundred more miles on my G5's.

Tranquil - We told you early on to watch out...running is addicting.  You've discovered it for yourself.  Thanks for the fresh perspective you bring to this forum.

Happy Running to all!

Easy 1 hour run today, at around 6:50-7:10 pace, we needed to take it easy today.  Then tomorrow an easy 3-4 miles then county meet on saturday morning.

9 miles 9:10  pace,.works had me up about 28 hrs now but managed to get the run in,

.grame and junkie,. best of wishes to ya in the race ....enjoy it..!!

good luck to anyone else racin i mught hav missed, and rogerbum great to hear its not a major problem for ya,.

i must admit i too run 5-6 a week, but try and alternate easy and hard workouts

hmm...and now for my sleep...good runnin all...  zzzzzzzz