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  1.  
    carolyntomaino

    I just got a road bike (my first in 20 years - was a mtn biker for years) and have put about 300 miles on it. 

    My problem is, my toes start getting numb after about 5 miles. It starts with the 3rd & 4th toes.

    I've tried to push through it but the numbness expands to the rest of my foot and then it starts to be pretty painful.

    I'm good as new after a quick break but it would be oh so nice if I could figure out what's causing it.

    It's not my shoes, I tried a variety.

    I've got a great gel seat which I've moved up and down back & forward. Nada.  

    I also use padded shorts (and sometimes a gel seat cover - sounds like a lot of padding, doesn't it)

    Anyone have any ideas?

    • CommentAuthorFree Membernfoley
    • CommentTimeAug 17th 2007
     
    nfoley

    I used to have the same problem. For me it was caused by keeping my shoes too tight. Try loosening your shoes a lot, especially in the toe/arch area... Like to the point where you can almost pull out of them. It feels a bit weird at first, but it prevents the numbness/pain and it doesn't actually compromise pedaling. 

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberCalantha
    • CommentTimeAug 17th 2007
     
    Calantha
    I have this problem as well.  I have tried loosening my shoes, and while it helps a bit, it seems that any time I really push myself and bike hard, my big toe and the toe next to it goes numb... Could it be a pinched nerve due to foot placement on the pedals?
    • CommentAuthorFree Membermattykay84
    • CommentTimeAug 17th 2007
     
    mattykay84
    It could possibly have to do with the placement of your pedals, but it would also be the way you are pedaling. If you are pedaling toes down you are going to be pushing your toes into the toe box and squishing them. One thing that i found worked for me was not only loosening the last strap, but loosening the middle one. I keep the top pretty snug and the other two fairly on the loose side. It has just about solved my numb toes problem... now if i could only get my knee to cooperate...
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberaaronbyard
    • CommentTimeAug 18th 2007
     
    aaronbyard
    It could also be the type of pedals. I recently switched from Speedplay light action pedals back to Shimano. The Shimanos feel much better. It shouldn't matter with a carbon fiber sole, but for some reason it does. Cleat placement is also a possibility, and I am beginning to think that frame geometry plays a role as well. I'm on a compact road frame and I never had any problems on the same size Cannondale touring frame. I think that goes along with what MattyKay said about pedaling with your toes down. It might be that your top tube is too short for you. There are so many factors that go into this.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberssgrouch
    • CommentTimeAug 18th 2007
     
    ssgrouch

    I have the same problem when my saddle is not adjusted correctly or I don't get out of the saddle. Usually not a problem when mountain biking (I get out of the saddle a lot - singlespeed bike), but when commuting (never out of the saddle), I found that I had to play around with saddle position. I found that pointing the front of the saddle down just a touch works the best for me.

     

    Good luck

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberjoniesconie
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2007 edited
     
    joniesconie

    It could be a condition called Morton's Neuroma (which is a pinched nerve). For walkers/ runners wider shoes with a cushioned insole usually help a lot, and also an arch support.

    I also get these symptoms after running and cycling longer distances, so I wear an arch support in my cycling shoes, with an extra bit of cushioning under the ball of my foot. I also wiggle my toes to get the blood flowing.

    The problem got worse for me when the shank of my old cycling shoes softened, and it improved with some new Specialised shoes with a more rigid shank. It might also have helped to tweak the position of my cleats.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberstephro30
    • CommentTimeAug 19th 2007
     
    stephro30

    I use to have the same problem when I ran.  I played softball in college and did a lot of running.  The pain was only there while I was excercising... at least, at first.  None of my trainers seemed to know what was going on. 

    My feet would go numb and I would start to feel my toe flopping or dragging more and more the further I went.  Finally, I had a trainer that put what was going on together. 

     After a great deal of discussion on what I was feeling and what was going on, and after seeing a sports medicine specialist at my school, my problem was finally solved. 

    It's called compartment compression syndrome.  It's rare and most people over look it.  They throw it out or say it's a shin splint, or just have no idea what it is.  But really, it can be a serious problem.  What happens is that the muscle tissue expands while excericising, but the compartment around it (the facia) does not.  The muscle is pushed in on itself and it cuts off the blood vessels and the nerves to your feet... hince the numbness.  As your muscles cool, the pain stops. 

    Unfortunately there are few ways to solve the problem.  Pretty much, surgery is it.  I had surgery three years ago and I'm back to running and training and it's amazing.  It was a quick recovery and I feel little to no pain now!  It's been great.  Anyway, you should check that out and if you have any questions about it feel free to email me at stephro30@hotmail.com.  Hope you find out whats up and honestly, I hope you don't have what I had!  It took 4 years of pain for them to finally figure it out, and it got worse all the time.  But now life is good again! :)

    Good luck!

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberblackhuey
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2007
     
    blackhuey

    I had the same problem with my feet when I started riding a road bike.  I wore a pair of biking socks and it went away.  I was just weaing running socks with my bike shoes (fashion faux pas, I know).  It was purely by accident that I tried the bike socks (all my runnings socks were dirty) but the numb feet went away.  I think I had my shoes too tight too.  I have real high arches so I tried all sorts of fancy inserts and "foot beds".  Not sure why I thought foot beds would keep my feet from going to sleep.  Hilarious.

    All of this is probably a little cheaper than new pedals or surgery. 

  2.  
    CoreyKeizer

    Here is everything you need to know about numb toes.  

    Shoes and pedals are where everyone points the finger. Thats well and good, but the problem is usually much higher up the leg than that. 

    Cycling causes the muscle groups in your butt, pelvis and thighs to tighten and constrict.  This impedes blood flow throughout your entire lower body. Your toes are at the very bottom of that blood super highway, so they get the least amount of blood.  Combined with over tightened shoes (expect your feet to swell a quarter of a shoe size while cycling) and you get numb toes.  What increases the problem is the fact that many novice and even intermediate cyclists have poor spinning technique.  We tend to push a gear that's way too hard at way too low a cadence.  This causes even greater muscle constriction. Another common problem is having your seat too low.  not allowing full extension of your knee will again increase constriction of the blood flow to your feet.  

     do these things to solve the problem.  

    1)start the ride with your shoes a little loose and then tighten them comfortably after the first 30 minutes

    2)stretch.  I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH. before the ride, make sure to stretch the muscles of your buttocks and hips (i recommend the playboy stretch, sitting, one leg straight out, the other bent and over the knee of the first leg twist your back around facing the side of the bent knee) or put one foot on a 2 ft. high ledge and lean into it, body should be at 45 degrees.  There is also a great stretch I learned in Yoga, but I can't remember the name... sorry.  You should stretch for 20 minutes before each ride.  

    3) check your seat.  You should only have about 5 degrees of bend in your knee when your leg is fully extended.  

    4)concentrate on your pedal stroke.  make sure to PULL UP on the backside of each foots pedal stroke.  This will distribute the effort over a larger group of muscles, thus decreasing the effort of the few that were doing the work before.  Decreased effort = looser muscles, looser muscles=better blood flow.

    5)  Easier gears, Higher Cadence.  This will promote greater use of your Cardio strength as well as increase the blood flow through out your legs.

     These are the changes I made.  I used to constantly battle with numb feet.  Now I never do.  

     

    -Corey

    • CommentAuthorPremium Member!wightboi
    • CommentTimeJul 27th 2008
     
    wightboi
    also don't rule out cleat placement - i moved my cleats inward a little and it seemed to take pressure off the outer part of my foot that was numbing - talk to a professional maybe and see what they think before doing this though - most cycling shops can look at your cleats and tell you if they are positioned correctly for your foot
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberdswonger
    • CommentTimeAug 23rd 2008
     
    dswonger

    I'm more with twelve_times.  Shoes are looked at a lot, but seat and leg placement are equally important to prevent chronic injury/strains.  

     The feet are innervated by the sciatic nerve which runs under or thru the piriformis muscle (one of the lateral running muscles up in your arse).  As we sit on a seat improperly (or improperly placed seat) for extended periods, we apply pressure to that huge sciatic nerve (it is a rope).  This nerve then travels down the backside of our leg and splits into the tibial  and the peroneal nerve (The sciatic is just those two nerves in the same bundle).  The tibial then branches and  ends up in the bottom of the feet as the medial and lateral plantar nerves (there are more but the majors at the toes are those two).  It is likely you feel the most numbness from the medial br., but with feet swelling, etc., you get the drift.  That is probably why standing and getting blood flow to your arse tends to make it better.

    My advice would be to work on the saddle and then go down or go get fitted.   Core training will help too (back lifts, balance training, and abdominal work - those colored balls really do work, even though they look really dorky.  You may have a little lower back pathology going on and a disc may be putting some pressure on those nerve roots of the 'sciatic'.  As a second note, a lot of back problems are not totally back problems.  Abdominal weakness leads to a lot of problems.  Remember, the nerves of your spine come out from slightly anteriorly/abdominal side and most disc problems are from herniation to the anterior/ventral side of the spine = belly side = weak belly = weak spine.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberdalbany992
    • CommentTimeAug 24th 2008
     
    dalbany992
    I've been having the same kind of problem, but mine is both hands and feet.I have read in an earlier posting that the hand numbness comes from leaning too much of my weight on my hands. Thus cutting off the blood flow into my hands. I road 29 mile’s

    Yesterday and tried to not put a lot of weight on my hands through the whole ride. That seamed to work. Now on to the feet. Still had some foot numbness, I use toe clips and I am riding a mountain bike. Usually when my feet start to loose the feeling if I take my feet out of the clips it starts to go away. I think I am going to loosen the straps and loosen my shoe laces. I also am wearing sneakers a little warn out. (Need to pick up a good mountain biking pair of shoes.) Thank you for all of your in put into this subject It helped me out a lot.

     

     

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberhraposo
    • CommentTimeSep 4th 2008
     
    hraposo
    my problem was cleat placement. I had the cleats too far forward. Also, sometimes the screw that are provided with the cleats are too long and they shoot road vibration directly into your foot. I have the specialized BG S-Works shoes and had to use short screws because the carbon soles are so thin. You have to start somewhere. Also, the shoes should feel a little loose to allow blood to flow. After you warm up, tighten them up a little. That helps a lot. Also, try to mix it up a little..... stand on some of the climbs.