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    • CommentAuthorFree MemberNT1440
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2008
     
    NT1440

    hey guys, i just became a member here, and really in the last few weeks started taking my health seriously. I'm sitting here after a 4.16 mile run (damn i love your distance calculator) feeling suprisingly good considering i never thought of myself as a runner.

    anyway, the point of this discussion is morning runs. Im currently a 16 year old junior in Highschool and i want to try to get around 2 runs a day in to improve my cardiovascular system (my dad has a condition and i feel i should do what i can to prevent any problems seeing as im at increased risk). I have a short route planned out around my neighborhood that is roughly , give or take a few tenths, 1.5 miles. I'm planning on doing this at around 530 or 6 am.

     

    any thoughts? advice?

     

    PS. im also planning to do moderate runs at night around 9 pm (its the most pleasant time of day for me =D ) and by moderate i mean 2-4.5 miles 

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberdrkonijn
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2008
     
    drkonijn
    If you're running that late at night and that early in the morning are you getting enough sleep?
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberjkpesven
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2008
     
    jkpesven
    I don't know about running twice a day.  I run almost exclusively around 5:15 AM.  I personally would extend either your morning or evening run and just do one.  The body needs time to recover and you are working it pretty hard.  You are only 16, however.  This advice is coming from a 38-year-old.  I agree with the post above, as well.  Proper sleep is essential for proper fitness.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberchiggy_
    • CommentTimeApr 9th 2008
     
    chiggy_
    One longer run is more beneficial than 2 shorter ones, even if it doesnt quite add up to the same mileage. So one 5mile run is better than a 1.5 and 4 mile. I do morning runs 3 days a week but mainly just to work out soreness, loosen up, and it adds a few extra miles for the week. I think that unless you are wanting to seriously train for something i would just run once a day. It will help you more and you wont have to wake up early.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberdixidee
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2008
     
    dixidee

    Site newbie here, but I also do 2 a day and my reasons are similar, I'm geneticically at risk for heart disease.   Good for you on taking charge of your health at such a early age!  That's one investment that never goes wrong.

    I can't run much, my knees won't allow it, and I can't get enough time in the morning to do a long walk in the morning.  So I generally do 45-60 minutes at 6am, and then another 30-60 minutes in the evening, about 7pm.   I can't see why sleep would be an issue, unless you're staying up til 3am?  I'm generally in bed by 10pm in order to get up at 5:45pm, and I'm at the track at 6.   For me, preparation is key, get everything ready to go for the morning the night before.   I can't see where my 2 a day walks/run/waddles are hurting me in any way.  I have more emergy than when I was only doing 1 a day, and if I have to skip a workout, I know I'm only a few hours from the next one.  My walks are as much about stress relief and actual exercise, I'd miss it if I had to go back to just one a day.  So my advice is that if you enjoy doing two a day, stick with it.  If getting up early isn't your thing, go to evening only.  It's really about find what works for you, what you can stick with long term and enjoy.

     

     

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    spudsmac12
    I do about 2 double days a week. My morning run is a short distance tempo (1.7 or 3 mile), at about 7, and my afternoon runs are track work outs, about 6ish. Depending on the intensity of the track workout I judge the length of the tempo run and the run for the next day (afternoon). Personally, my only intention of the tempo in the morning is to wake my body up and get my body running at that speed. If there is a local 5K on a Saturday morning I'll sign up, but I always know what my tempo goal is and have that in my head before I get to the start line. I'll then do another 3-mile tempo in the afternoon, basically at the same pace I did the race at. I don't do a track workout on a Saturday because my long runs are on Sunday. I really don't know how helpful it is to run that short of a distance for cardio, I do my track workouts to do that. I actually get very concerned that these miles might be "junk" miles in my training. Personally, I would not do a morning run if you are going to run in the afternoon, unless maybe it was a track work out. It is generally better if you are going to run 5 miles in a day to do it all in one shot then to break it up, unless of course you can not run that distance in one shot because of other reasons. I would love to see more people chime in on this topic, like I said I don't know if doubles have a place in my training either. ~John
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    wheatonrunner69

    I live around Boston and only have the luxury of bike commuting in the summer.  My current route is about 62 miles round trip from door to door:

    http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/ma/norwood/717649396

     

    It's been done in an 100 minutes, but the stop lights and traffic in the afternoon make that impossible.  I must admit its kinda chilly at 6am on the ride in, but usually warms up nicely by 7.

    Thats about as long (time not distance) as I'd commute to work. I'd have no problem doing a 80 mile round trip if there were no stop lights and traffic.

     - WR

     

     

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    wheatonrunner69

    wrong post sorry about that.

     

    I'm not a big fan of doubles, and came from a college running background where our coach wasn't either.  I've done 90 miles a week in singles, and rarely run doubles (with the exception of a bike/run or swim/bike day) even now that I'm into triathlons.

    If I were you I'd just stick to once a day and only 4 or 5 days a week.  You're young, and should be out doing fun stuff not training doubles (especially such short ones).  I'd say if you're really serious about running talk to your Schools track/XC coach and have him outline something tailored to you, or heck join the team while you're at it.  If you dont want to talk to anyone at school, or if you dont have a track team, start out easy doing doing singles and mix it up with a tempo run and shorter harder stuff like 800 repeats on the track.  You'll gain more doing that than short doubles every day.  Plus doubles take up lots of time (getting ready, stretching, running, showering, changing etc.).

     

    If you wanna talk more about it shoot me an email ---> Pete@Cahalane-inc.com

    Also feel free to checkout my website: www.cahalane-inc.com

    Cheers,

    Pete

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