I think the site is great. I use it to track my mileage done on my bike, I use the goals to set targets and they act as motivation, I share routes with friends. All work well
Ok it has a few minor problems but the site is always improving and it is free, I have used much worse software that I have had to pay for! Overall MMF is fantastic.
I've used the site for several months now and have had very few problems with it. Minor bugs pop up every now and then (most recently noticed start time and end time didn't update properly) but those were all very short lived. I think the MapMy team is doing a great job!
The site has replaced the Excel spreadsheet I was using to track training. The site is [relatively] simple to use and provides great reports.
Both thumbs up for the site and the development team! If you don't like the site, simply stop using it and save your negative comments...it's obvious from all the responses to your post that others are not having the same negative experience.
I like this site and find it very useful. Easy to navigate, update maps, create new maps. Love it.
I personally find the site non-ubiquitous.
I just started running about a month ago and have never used anything esle but this FREE site so I have nothing to compare it to.
There are a ton of great comments and I like the idea that it will spur the onset of FREE improvements to the site.
I would just like thank the developers for providing me with such a great FREE tool, buggy or otherwise, I may have stopped running if I didn't have a FREE place to search for information to make my runs better.
Did I mention I haven't paid a dime to this website?
Thanks for your hard work on the IT side of things!
My hats off to ya!
Peter-DG - I use the site to track my runs and my rides, but I've never tried to create a cue sheet. Not sure how to do that other than adding notes. For that matter, I've never tried to print out a route either. I'm generally using the site to track my training rather than setting things up for others, especially groups, so my needs may be different than yours. I had some issues when I first started using the site, but I've never had a situation where I couldn't correct my mistakes. Then again, the longest route I've mapped is about 35 miles.
Given the fact that the site uses Google Maps and that is what I would call Consumer Quality computerized mapping (as opposed to Professional Quality mapping software that a cartographer or surveyor would use) , and that the site is free, I think they do a wonderful job. There is not a software system built anywhere by anyone that couldn't be improved. But this is pretty d*** good.
rpetr.... - can't argue with that.
BTW: "burn off some of that hostility on your bike" is a VERY good way to get killed, considering the drivers out there - see old "BMW" topic.
To those that keep saying "Hey, it's free, don't complain", Routeslip.com was also free, and while it had it's quirks/problems, was a MUCH better tool. I really have to wonder why MMR took it over, but didn't continue to offer all (most?) of its features. Worse yet, why didn't MMR migrate the data along w/ the accounts?????
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to have something that I can use to track my rides, but the reports aren't really of much use, and the climbing data is just off.
Oh, and the people that say "Don't complain, it's free." remind me of the people that say "Hey, what do you expect, we're volunteers.".
rptpreccajr wrote in response to my original post:
"I don't know exactly where you have mapped your route, where you are entering the road or what scale you are working at, but lots of variables could contribute to what you see. For example, if there is a driveway cut or turn lane to go into/out of a private lot there is probably not a connection in the data for that. If you have the follow roads feature on and do a left turn across the road, there may not be a road feature to follow except by going right to the next cross street and then do a u-turn. This site is using Google Maps, They get their map data from another source - Navteq who in turn compiles that world-wide road data from hundreds or even thousands of other sources at lots of different scales. My agency supplies that data for Indianapolis and we have one person working full time for our measly 4200 miles of roads."
Please note that this part of my route did not access nor "cross" private ways nor use any roads that take you into private lots. The section of the route where I experienced the u-turn problem only uses major roads (the two-laner and the intersecting four-laner). I did have the Follow Roads feature turned-on. It sounds as if you're saying that the problem here, then, really comes from Google maps/Navteq. True?
Please note that I went back and tried it again with Follow Roads turned OFF, and then it worked fine.
Thanks,
DavidY
It's hard to believe someone can pend so much time and effort on something they think is so buggy. When they should obviously be programming the competitive alternative to Map My Fitness.
Maybe you should ask for your money back. Oh, that's right.. this site is free to the users.
Hmmm....
I am having similar problems as the original poster.
To those who want to flame me and tell me I need to learn how to use a computer: please grow up. Unless you're 10, there's really no call for that. However, if you really are 10, well then, carry on.
I've used this site successfully about 75% of the time. It seems to work best for my shorter, uncomplicated runs. But when it doesn't work, it makes me want to tear my hair out.
I got ambitious tonight and tried to map a bike route my niece and I went on yesterday. I promised I'd plot it and email the results to her, otherwise I'd have given up on it about an hour ago.
Issues:
After 90 minutes, I'm left with a non-functional, inaccurate, segmented map. It's pathetic, not worth sending to my niece, and a complete waste of time.
From a usability standpoint, I give this site a 1 out of 10. Because even if it works 75% of the time, I never know when it is or isn't going to function, rendering it basically useless.
Finally, yes, I do realize it's "free." Do I have a right to complain? Damn straight I do. Ever hear the saying: "there is no free lunch"? I just spent approximately 90 minutes staring at an Adidas ad that mapmyrun is getting revenue from. If there's advertising, there must be customers, people, and guess who the customers are? Hint: it ain't Adidas and it ain't mapmyrun.
Funny, the ads always loaded beautifully ... however, it's backfired because I've now begun to associate Adidas with extreme ennui and tedium.
A Price
runningyogi:I am having similar problems as the original poster.
I've used this site successfully about 75% of the time. It seems to work best for my shorter, uncomplicated runs. But when it doesn't work, it makes me want to tear my hair out.
Issues:
- Once saved, the title says my route was 12.8 miles, which is accurate. But when I opened up the map, it showed only about 9 miles of what I had plotted. When I tried to fix it, it segmented the route and then showed the total as zero miles.
- Many of my marker comments [written for her amusement, I'm usually not so detailed] mysteriously disappeared. Some would show up half the time, some just went away completely.
- Several times I hit 'undo' and it put me 10-20 miles east of my route. From that point I went to zoom out and I could see the entire world map. Tried to zoom in and I wound up in Alberta.
- The site is also often really slow to load.
- Given that it's so buggy, it really irritates me that I cannot save frequently as I plot. Saving requires exiting editing mode, answering an seemingly endless questionnaire [the first time anyway], then getting back into editing mode again. Very time consuming, and half the time I lost the very work I was trying to save anyway.
A Price
Yogi,
Whoa, that is one ugly map. My success rate is a bit higher than yours, and yet some bugs are really annoying if you don't work around them. Some can't be worked-around. I would prefer a bug-free site, but the work-arounds make it fairly functional.
1 & 2) Editing a map now causes all personal notes and 'follow roads' turn-by-turn notes to disappear. This really is a huge annoyance, requiring a 'Clear All Points' and a complete remapping to regenerate the turn-by-turns. This should be number one on the bug-fix list.
3) Turn off 'Auto Recenter Map' in Map Settings. It would be ideal if this option was off by default.
4) Try the ABP plug-in for Mozilla. I use dial-up (yes, I'm lame) and you can see how many maps I've made. It takes me about 5 minutes to make a map. Also, turn off 'Display Elevation' and use the basic map view.
5) Quickly saving a map-in-progress would be a useful feature. I wish it's on the feature request to-do list.
Hope that helps,
RoJoNo
This is only my second day using this site and as yet I've only used the most basic functions. So far I've found it to be quite hard to get around. It seems to have lots of tabs and menus for quickly getting to your weekly logs and your runs etc. which is great but it seems to let you down where it matters the most (in the actual ease in editing or mapping). In this respect, this website is far from user friendly.
For instance, I mapped a potential route last night which I decided to deviate from slightly (ran down a different street to avoid the traffic lights after which I rejoined the original route) when I ran this morning. When I returned I wanted to log this slightly modified run, and it took me over half an hour to realise that it just couldn't be done. If there is a way, I couldn't figure it out (and I think I'm reasonably good with computers).
In reply to all the guys saying it's a free website, I don't know if you realise that there is a paid version of it too?
Either way, I think that pointing out bugs for the programmers to fix is a good thing as long as it eventually happens so don't flame people who take the time to do so.
Interesting responses to some of the notions I initiated a couple of months back.
First of all, this tool is what it is, a tool. Most of you who really like it are runners and walkers and not bicyclists. Yes, I know some of you are. The difference is that I lead rides, usually three a week, so I like to get very specific if possible with the maps and directions I generate because I get the feedback if someone gets dropped and the map, if there is one, does not work well. Turns out the folks at MMR are very nice and pretty responsive to inquiries. However, some of the initial problems still exist. For example, if you plot a map and get descriptive of every turn and rest stop and regroup or hill climb then it may overload the system and only a portion of the whole map you made will come out in the end. Solution? Just map the route. Don't add directions at all. I've asked to be informed when it has a larger load but on this point I have not heard back. The second point is that while it can generate a "hill profile" it will not give a cumulative climb/descent feature. [sometimes it does but don't count on that.] Bike riders like to know this stuff, especially on a longer training ride or a race. Some folks will totally avoid a hilly course. Some thrive on it.
Now what was frustrating for me initially was that I spent literally hours making maps that would not come out because of the lack of data storage I suppose. In addition, MMR acquired Routeslip, as some of you know, and that site had these two features, at least for a while.
I'm using MMR but I just plot the routes for mileage. For vertical I ask someone who has a Garmin to give me the data so I have it but it is not part of this programming.
It is nice to see the new Premium features but for me, unless I can enter more information in and get the hill climbing totals and a capacity to measure specific hills and make note of it on the map I have to keep my grades for MMR less than an "A" for now.
EJ Levy
I have to agree with the orignal thread starter. I thought nothing could be worse than the original MapMyRide, but the new site is total crap. It may be ok for short running routes. Bike routes can be very long. I mapped a 66 mile route, it took forever and then I have yet to succesfully pull up the route again without the browser on 2 different computers saying a script is taking to long and should be shut down. Now I can't pull up the route so I can export it to a .crs file for my garmin. That is the sole purpose for me mapping it.
This site is junk. Its amazing that people are actually paying for the premium version of this. I would never pay for something so slow and buggy. A little hint - you have to invest a little money and get a pretty good product out there before you are going to get people to pay for it.
Very disappointed and none of the promises given over the old site hold true
I don't want to defend "MMF" because I too am very frustrated with the bugs; BUT, since I do have about 200 rides mapped [click link], quite a few In the 50 to 100 mile range, it can't be as useless as some of the above posts suggest. I don't think I've used the features they are proposing to charge for, and I've never used the fitness tracking stuff - just he mapping.