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    LimitedReality

     

     I've done a quick search through the forums and I don't see anyone asking this specific question so I figured I would.  I'm just getting to the point in my training where I'm doing 9 miles once a week on my long runs.  I've been reading about the benefits of fueling on the go once you start reaching the 1 hr + mark.  Although it might just be my weekly progress, I do feel better when I bring food with me.  

    My question is this, I've been using regular Quaker Oats Granola bars and Nutrigrain breakfast bars.  Does anyone see a benefit in buying the specialized bars or gels?  

     For instance, compare the nutrition of Quaker Chewy Granola vs. Clif Shot Gel

    It seems as though the Granola Bar has more fat (not a real concern for me, especially when running), and is either on par or containing higher levels of sodium, carbs, protein, and vitamins.  Considering you can buy the granola bars 10 for $3 and the supplement bars/gels are atleast twice the cost.  I just wanted to get some others opinions as to if/why the supplements are worth it.  Thanks. 

     

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberelbreks
    • CommentTimeMay 14th 2008
     
    elbreks
    I'm at the same point you are and am wondering the same thing.  Any insight from others would be appreciated. Thanks
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberianianian
    • CommentTimeMay 14th 2008 edited
     
    ianianian

    Im no expert but im pretty sure that the granola bar has high glycemic index carbs

    and the gels lower glycemic index type

     for me personally, i'd probably go with a generic bar for anything between 1 and 2 hours.  over 2 hours, i'd go with a more engenieered product like a gel.

     

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberKDogg
    • CommentTimeMay 14th 2008 edited
     
    KDogg

    I tell my customers that they should just stick with whatever works for them. The supplement bars are great post run snacks, but then again so are granola bars or bananas. If you are using it on the run currently and it is not giving you any problems, stick with it. In other words, it really just depends on the individual

    As for the gels, they are more easily absorbed thus making the energy more readily available. Not to mention since they are not really whole food, your body uses less to break them down, which means you have more energy (and blood flow) for your legs.

    I won't lie though, runner specific nutrition is really expensive when compared to normal food.

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    rpetreccajr

    I don't eat anything on a run, mostly because I don't like hurling it back up. I can take liquids, but not solids when running. Usually just water, but occasionally Gatorade on a really long run. However, when I ride, if I am by myself I take a couple of Quaker Crunchy Granola bars or a couple of six-packs of Oreos. Group rides with a sag stop, I'll grab a banana or some cookies, whatever the ride leader provides.

    I've never been able to convince myself that the cost of the specialized foods was justified. Never heard anybody rave about how wonderful they taste either. Used to do a lot of backpacking back in the day and could never bring myself to buy the hyper-expensive backpacking food either. There were always other choices on the regular grocer's shelves that were just as quick to prepare, just as calorie filled and tasted better. Maybe I'm just cheap.

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberBendy
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2008 edited
     
    Bendy

    I have been running long runs of 10-15 miles almost every weekend for a few years.

    I feel that the only benefit of these "suppliments" is psycological (and I have seen this in my training) so I don't use any processed food, and very little sugary things in my diet at all.

    You need slow-burn food, not sugar spikes.

    Eat a balanced diet with plenty of fresh vegetables, and you wont need this.

    As for the psycological "crutch" - think positive thoughts while you run - and you will feel much better afterwards.

    The reason these are expensive, is to pay for all the "research" and the marketing BS they bombard you with. :)

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberBendy
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2008
     
    Bendy

    A couple of other thoughts

    1) Since I moved to a diet of mainly organic veg, my stomach is much better - if I slip back in to my old ways, I can very quickly see the negative effect.

    2) I get far better moods eating veg and whole foods, and less tired (I can easily go shopping with my girlfriend, or do housework or gardening after a half marathon)

    3) Humans have been around a bit longer than snackbars

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberhanziou
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2008
     
    hanziou

    The main advantage to the gels vs the Granola bars is being able to eat them.   I don't mean flavor.  I mean being able to squirt the gel into my mouth and rinsing it down with water.  If you are not having
     any issues with the granola bars, I'd stick with those.  

     

    My experience is more cycling than running, but I  if I am out for an 'easy' ride then real food is not an issue.  If I am out pushing the pace (e.g. trying to keep up with a group) enough that I have trouble whistling or singing, then I also have problem trying to chew and swallow between breaths.  That is when gels become useful for me.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberlms1122
    • CommentTimeSep 5th 2008
     
    lms1122
    Bendy- I am not sure if you are still reading this discussion board since the most recent post on it was back in May, but I was wondering what you eat while you are running (since you are probably going longer than 90 minutes on a 15 mile run) since you don't eat any commercialized foods. I am nutrition grad student and soon to be Dietitian and agree that people should limit their intake of processed and sugary foods. However, I am not sure what to bring running with me other than bars and gels...fruits are so big and messy that it would be difficult to take. Do you make your own food to take while you run?
    • CommentAuthorFree MemberBendy
    • CommentTimeSep 5th 2008
     
    Bendy

    Ims1122,

    I am no expert, and can only talk from personal experience. Personally I can't eat while running.

    I think what I ate the day before is pretty important. Typically, if I want to go on a long run, I feel an ideal (for me) would have something like...

    Night before 19:00 - bowl or 2 of organic pasta and veg with a homemade tomato sauce.

    breakfast 08:00 - 2 fruits, apple/pear/banana, small bowl potatoes & veg, several pints of water (some times I have eaten just 1 mango, cut up, with greek yogurt, that seemed pretty good energy-wise "mango power")

    Wait 1.5 hours - sipping the water

    Run - but don't drink unless its hot (not hot this year in UK!)

    Then... get home pretty hungry, so usually have 2 lunches a couple of hours apart. Doesn't really matter what this is as long as it has some carbs (pasta, rice, potatoes, breads/cakes) veg, some salt, some sugars (fruits) I have been known to mix a fruits/salad/pasta in the same bowl, and eat it in a cold bath, but not for everyone I guess ;o)

    I do experiment, especially with what I eat before, as some things can irritate the first hour of running (bouncing up and down, or acid) for example I would not now eat oranges before running, and try not to eat too much for breakfast.

    Generally I am mostly veggie, but will eat meat.

    My wife has recently started making home-made bread. I was amazed by how easy it is to make, and how much better it tasted than shop-bread!

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberBendy
    • CommentTimeSep 5th 2008
     
    Bendy
    Since May, my "girlfriend" has become my "wife" Laughing
    • CommentAuthorFree MemberBendy
    • CommentTimeSep 5th 2008
     
    Bendy

    like rpetreccajr, I think I am ok eating on a bike.

    A couple of small bananas or apples might be good to take (?)

    Fruits come in biodegradeable packaging Wink, so if you are off-road, you can just throw the banana "wrapper" in the hedge.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberlms1122
    • CommentTimeSep 6th 2008
     
    lms1122
    Thanks for the advice! I agree that homemade bread is 100x better. My husband and I have been making our own bread since about April as well. I am hoping that within the next year I will have trained enough to not need to eat when I run 10-15 miles. Congrats on your marriage :)