First a few questions:
1 Do you ride everyday and how long have you been riding?
2 What brand of shorts/bibs do you wear and what brand, if any, of chamois cream do you use?
3 what brand/type of saddle do you have and have you been "fit" on the bike?
4 and finally What detergent do you use to wash your clothes?
I ride five days a week around 400km total. No chamois cream - haven't heard of it. I'm wearing Adidas shorts. I have another pair of Di Terzo's, and they don't have friction. But the padding is better on the Adidas. It's almost like the material is too abrasive.
And I have been fit for the saddle. It's a bontragger seat. I use a detergent called Ariel. I don't think they have it in the US, though.
"No chamois cream - haven't heard of it."
Get to know it, trust me on this one... been there, done that, didn't like the idea of putting this creamy stuff on, did anyway and am GLAD! Longest ride so far without chaffing, 565 miles over 7 days - put on just before I went out, then re-applied at lunch on any day over 65 miles
The bike setup ques. may not seem relevant, but if you're not aligned right, then you can't hold good form on the bike. If your sit bones are not supporting the weight that means other stuff that shouldn't be, is. That's not cool and it goes hand in hand with a good saddle. A good saddle for one person doesn't mean it's a good saddle for another. I say go demo or try some different saddles to see if you can get more of your weight on the sit bones and a more comfortable ride. It doesn't hurt to try!
The brand of Shorts can have a big affect too. I would def invest in a good brand of bibs with a good chamois. Bibs are a lot better than shorts and once you try them you'll know why.
Well never heard of Ariel but it's always good to use a real light detergent when washing all the cycling stuff together. If the detergent is heavy it can stay around in the chamois and that's never good. Also Key is Chamois cream. While Chamois butter is cheaper and works good, I find AssosTM is the best stuff out there. Look it up, it's worth the price!
Good luck!
Eli,
I think you have pretty well anwered your own question. You have two pairs of shorts. One chafes, the other doesn't. Ditch the ones that chafe!
I know Ariel as I'm from UK. Nothing wrong with it at all. If you have skin rashes that you think may be from the detergent, then switch to a non-biological powder. I'm guessing that this isn't the case here.
Regarding the fit question, I just recently had my first true "fit" done. I've been road riding on and off for approximately 20 years. I thought I knew how to fit myself on a bike. For $50 a local shop set me up on a fixed stand, spent an hour repositioning my cleats, moving my seat the opposite way I thought it should go, raising my seat more than I thought it should go. I had come to expect knee and back pain from a long road ride. I've only done around 50 miles since the fit, but it's been remarkable. I have more strength, I'm more comfortable, and I came off the bike feeling good.
Regarding butt butter. Find it, use it, love it. At first I didn't use enough. Now I apply to the nether regions AND the chamois. Liberally. The first few times you'll feel like you've got a load in your pants, but it will pass, and your parts will thank you for it.
Regarding shorts, spend the money, get quality products, and stick with it. It doesn't make sense to spend thousands on a bike, and then skimp on the most important contact point with the bike.
Good luck.
Instead of using a chamois cream (some can be expensive), simple nappy rash cream works a treat - my pals and I use Sudacrem and we've never had a problem with it. It's real cheap and has antiseptic properties, so if you were saddle sore already and wanted to ride slapping the Sudacrem on sore skin will help matters.
Hope it helps.
Eli -
I would agree on the creams or butter products! When I was a US club-level racer doing about 300+ mi per week I used creams. I would also switch out my shorts so I could wash/dry one and wear the other. With synthetic chamios it's not as critical on how dry/supple chamios is compared to older chamios.
As for shorts: I like the Pearl Izumi 3D race and pro chamios in various shorts. Newer multi-density chamios are nice. I've stop wearing my older shorts with thinner chamios also for the comfort.
Do consider cleaning yourself after your ride as soon as possible; kind of like why you don't sit around in a wet bathing suit too long.
After riding sometimes I use some Talc powder in those "regions" so that some extra moisture gets absorbed.
Someone mentioned bike fit, which could be an issue too, like having your seat too high. I had a teammate who one week started hurting. So we measured his seat height, compared it to his fit sheet, and found it was higher then what he had.
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